Wait, What? Ep. 109: Delightful
/Two panels from Avengers #1. Captain America sounds kinda bitchy here, doesn't he?
Happy holidays! Ho ho ho! Uhh.... Gather Ye Rosebuds While You May!
(Man, I gotta outsource the holiday sections of these entries to Graeme or something. I am really bad at this!)
Anyway, behind the jump...Show Notes!
0:00-7:13: Welcome! We start things bright and cheerful by talking about the possible coming apocalypse. Are we welcoming you to next-to-last Wait, What? ever? (We're not.) (Or are we?) (But, really, we're not.) But Graeme's thesis is that 2012 was such a shitty year, it's easy to believe that even the end of the world would be preferable to it continuing. True for you?
Also, because this is the first of two eps. wherein we answer your questions, let's see if this approach makes for a nice, clear set of shownotes or not:
7:13-10:21: Answered first, since it's been lingering! From T.: "Okay, I asked this earlier, but can you recite the Four or so stock Bendis characters or voices that you mentioned two podcasts ago, and can you provide examples? I think the only one you got to was the “smart guy” character/voice." Here is part one of our answer with All-New X-Men #3 discussed as well.
10:21-21:01: But because we are us, we go on to discuss Avengers #1 by Jonathan Hickman and Jerome Opena instead. I'm really tempted to spoil the joke team in this one because I thought it was pretty funny, but I'll let you find it out for yourself.
21:01-25:51: And then, because we are conscientious types, we go back to talking about the four basic Bendis voices, and the voices he can't seem to quite catch.
25:51-27:10: Whew! Our first question answered! Then, because of of some weird connection problems on Graeme's problems, we move right to...
27:10-27:32: MUSICAL INTERLUDE THE FIRST
27:32-46:16: We are back to talk about a topic we promised to discuss last time--how the Internet turned thought into a widget. Hopefully, this is more than just a standard INTERNET WAAH WAAH WAAH discussion. Among things mentioned: Steampunk, the collapse of the porn industry, zombie hordes, etc.
46:16-1:03:03: Twitter Question #1: from @adampknave: Redo MarvelNOW: "Cast your 2 X-Men & 2 Avenger books + what creative teams? BONUS: Justify a D-Man series".
1:03:03-1:03:26: MUSICAL INTERLUDE THE SECOND
1:03:26-1:08:43: Twitter Question #2 from @adampknave: "What sandwiches and pies are you both looking forward to in 2013?" If you are in the Bay Area, I highly recommend you order the Cran-Apple Pie from these guys before the end of December….
1:08:43-1:10:40: Twitter Question #3 from @Twyst: "What would Wolverine get as gifts for each of the Avengers?"
1:10:40-1:20:38: Twitter Question #4 from @davepress:"what do you think Karen Berger will do next? You'll probably get into this anyway."
1:20:38-1:21:09: Twitter Question #5 from @davepress:"also what writing project are you working on Jeff? (I don't care about you, Graeme. Kidding!)"
1:21:09-1:22:14:Twitter Question #6 from CandyAppleAlly: "Does Marvel hate Scarlet Witch fans more than DC hates Stephanie Brown fans or vice-versa?"
1:22:14-1:25:44: Twitter Question #7 from @zhalfim: "what comics this year did you like that you never ever expected to like?"
1:25:44-1:28:01: Twitter Question #8 from @zhalfim: "(you don't have to answer both either/or is cool) what is the most memorable thing said in this year's run of podcasts?"
1:28:01-1:33:46: Web Question #1 from Dr. Timebomb: "With Karen Berger leaving DC I’ve thought about the major changes DC has gone through recently. It was only a few years ago that in addition to the DC Universe and Vertigo you had Humanoids, CMX, Minx, and, on the web, Zuda. DC overall seemed to be servicing all aspects of the industry. Variety was a value. Why didn’t it work? Is it a matter of readers not showing up, therefore these initiatives not making enough beans for the bean counters? Is it impatience/short-sightedness on the part of the publishers? Which side shoulders the blame, and is it more than just one side?"
1:33:46-1:44:48: Web Question #2 from Faur: "Do you think the role of the artist, artwork, and his or her visual storytelling are given the appropriate amount of consideration in online comics criticism, particularly in criticism of mainstream comics? Follow-up question: Do you think artists are given appropriate credit for a comic’s commercial success?" Our answer incorporates more discussion of Avengers #1.
1:44:48-1:45:34:Web Question #3(a) from Alan Smith: "Q. Why are you guys so negative on Mark Miller and Jim Shooter? (not trolling I’m new to comics)." Cue the link to Marvel Comics: The Untold Story.
1:45:34-1:50:46:Web Question #3(b) from Alan Smith: "Q. (to Jeff re Marvel boycott) Why are you OK with buying/using Apple products to read comics when that company has arguably a far worse attitude to labour relations/creator rights/worker rights than Marvel?"
1:50:46-1:56:05: Web Question #4 from Dan Coyle: "Q: What do you think victory is for Steve Wacker?" On a related note, Amazing Spider-Man #799 is discussed. On a related, related note, even after reminding himself repeatedly, Jeff still refers to issue #799 as issue #699. Denial!
1:56:05-FINI: Time is called, after Jeff's last-ditch attempt to run the ball out of bounds fails. Holiday wishes are made, theme music is played.
Whew, I know, right? It's like the type of cliffhanger you might see at the end of an Adam West Batman episode! If it took us two hours to answer thirteen questions and we can only record one more episode where we have to answer thirty-plus questions then how are we going to.... <insert headsplode here>
(Nah, it'll all work out, I'm sure.)
Anyhoo: maybe you've already come across this episode on iTunes. Or maybe you haven't and you just want to listen to it here?? Either way, it is waiting for you below:
Wait, What? Ep. 109: Delightful
And join us here next week for our epic wrap-up just in time for the holiday break! Hope you enjoy, etc., etc.